lumpenproletariat Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 about New Zealand history. I figure this is something noone here bar me would know about, and it is a rather interesting subject. As I am supposed to be doing an assignment about it, I will leave a major update for right now, but give a veryveryvery general overview. British explorer captain James Cook "discovered" New Zealand after dutch(?) explorer Abel Tasman found it roughly 100 years before and titled it New Zealand. (Zealand = holland location? will check.) The Ensuing attempted colonisation by the British empire was fraught with losses. the Maori (natives) put up one hell of a fight, inventing stuff like trench warfare, and passive resistance. British eventually win out by sheer numbers, and arguments about land ownership still going back and forth today. Theres its very simply, like I said. Monday I will begin a sort of simple timeline to ease your minds in , in the mean time, be happily expectant ps. and if anyone does know something about NZ history, speak up
Appy Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 I do not know much about New Zealand history, but I DO know Dutch History Abel Tasman was indeed from the Netherlands and Zeeland is a Dutch province (his homebase I believe, but not sure) I'm looking forward to more, always was interested in History with a capitol H
lumpenproletariat Posted September 13, 2003 Author Report Posted September 13, 2003 forgot to mention, I'm pretty sure Cook landed around 1756.
Peredhil Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 I look forward to watching this develop. It would be neat if, after you've gathered all your facts here, you gift us with the final cohesive work as well. Could be a useful example of research.
Tyrion Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 Sounds fun. I know very little about Middle...New Zealand.
Aardvark Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 The poms didn't win for numbers. They managed to talk the maoris into signing a treaty which they never had any intention of honouring. That's why there are land disputes to this day. The maoris want the shiny beads they were promised
lumpenproletariat Posted September 13, 2003 Author Report Posted September 13, 2003 The poms didn't win for numbers. They managed to talk the maoris into signing a treaty which they never had any intention of honouring. That's why there are land disputes to this day. The maoris want the shiny beads they were promised The New Zealand Wars commenced after the signing of that treaty (Treaty of Waitangi), which is when the Maoris were quite often beating the British. Only when more Imperial Troops were brought in, did the English start to turn the tide.
Aardvark Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 Where are you getting your information from? After the treaty was signed, the maoris stopped the widescale butchery of paka. And, with the exception of the occasional hangied missionary, left the english alone. Except to buy booze from him. The english, unable to defeat them in war, decided assimilation was the go and encouraged white men to take maori brides. This almost worked, too. Only very recently have the few fullbloods left decided to keep all marriages between fullbloods, in an effort to save their race and thumb their noses at mother england
lumpenproletariat Posted September 14, 2003 Author Report Posted September 14, 2003 Where are you getting your information from? After the treaty was signed, the maoris stopped the widescale butchery of paka. And, with the exception of the occasional hangied missionary, left the english alone. Except to buy booze from him. The english, unable to defeat them in war, decided assimilation was the go and encouraged white men to take maori brides. This almost worked, too. Only very recently have the few fullbloods left decided to keep all marriages between fullbloods, in an effort to save their race and thumb their noses at mother england paka -> pakeha? *THE* new zealand wars occured after the signing of the treaty of Waitangi in 1840. I'll get round ot the actual beginning later, but suffice to say, 90% of the physical conflict between britain as an imperial army and various maori tribes occured between 1846 and 1872.
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